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 Post subject: TSOYA: Dick Cavett
PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:22 pm 
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Another great guest from the talk show world: the very funny, very sharp Dick Cavett.


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It was such an honor to get to meet Mr. Cavett, even if it was from 3000 miles away.

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Oh god yes. I feel I must clock out of work early to download this.

(Watch this space for a cracklingly geeky yet failed attempt at a shop-talk discussion of interviewing technique by yours truly.)

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This was an excellent interview, Jesse. So great. The whole "late night" episode was very impressive.

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I've just turned this on. I haven't even gotten to the interview yet but I'm terribly excited. Dick Cavett is absolutely masterful. Jesse, I hope you offered to produce a podcast for him, Judge John Hodgman-style.

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Here is the amazing Gymkata pommel horse fight scene.

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Gotta appreciate Jesse's approach. If you're nervous about interviewing a broadcasting legend, break the ice with their thoughts on "Gymkata."

In fairness, everyone has an opinion on it. Or should.

INTERVIEW = WIN!


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When I was in high school, I always felt so sophisticated when I watched Dick Cavett. I honestly don't know whether I actually heard him say this or whether I only heard that he had said it, but I took from him the advice that the real reason you go to college is to learn how to make conversation at cocktail parties. That's true on so many levels.

Thanks, Jesse. I agree, the whole late night show was excellent.


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The interview "dirt" from this one on the latest JJGO! was cool to hear, too.


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Thanks, Jesse. I agree, the whole late night show was excellent.


One for the vaults...and reminiscent of the old theme-type shows you used to do.

I loved that Dick was actually engaged in the idea of actually watching "Gymkata". I'd fly to Cinefamily to watch a print of "Gymkata" with him.

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Just guessin': program directors don't raise an eyebrow at kicking off the interview with Gymkata, but would have peed the pool if you'd talked to Cavett for fifteen more minutes. Truly, public radio is a strange, ironic realm of which I understand nothing.

But yes, choice conversation. I especially clenched my fist in victory at the part about how Cavett had funny people on his show, but that his show wasn't about them being funny. As someone who laughs at things in exactly inverse proportion to how deliberately those things were crafted as comedy, I am all for this. But where, I wonder, have Cavett's heirs been? The conversational, non-pre-interviewin', non-goin'-straight-for-the-biggest-yuks-within-four-minutes hosts that descend from his generation to ours — where have they been?

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colinmarshall wrote:
But where, I wonder, have Cavett's heirs been? The conversational, non-pre-interviewin', non-goin'-straight-for-the-biggest-yuks-within-four-minutes hosts that descend from his generation to ours — where have they been?


I really wish I knew. I'm too young to have grown up with Cavett, have barely seen any of his interviews, but have loved his Times blog and loved this interview because his voice and sense of humor are so singular and unique. They're representative of a sort of intellectual culture (that I'm probably idealizing) where ideas were regularly discussed in the popular forum, and all artists (even comedians!) were treated seriously enough to assume they had big ideas to bear. Cavett on top of that lends so much gravitas and respect to the people he interviewed and the recitation of his experiences. It's probably why John Lennon agreed to do his show.


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They're representative of a sort of intellectual culture (that I'm probably idealizing) where ideas were regularly discussed in the popular forum


Oh god yes. I know what you mean. I'm also too young (b. 1984) to have experienced this time, but man, the things I hear. I wrote as best I could about these issues recently, in the context of Woody Allen's Manhattan:
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Fragmentation is a word often used to describe our culture’s current direction. Some of this seems driven by the internet, and I’ve certainly enjoyed creating and consuming media for and from the micro-outlets that have resulted. But if I could press a button to destroy geekdom, on the other hand, I probably would. Something went wrong when cultural specialization took the same path as technological speculation. We can offload some walking onto engines? Great. We can offload some mental math onto calculators? Great. We can offload some cinematic literacy onto film geeks? Whoa there.

When did people forget that the idea is to become a rich (broadly speaking) human being, not an ever-finer utilitarian cog? With film left mainly to film geeks, literature left mainly to literature geeks, art left mainly to art geeks, and music left mainly to music geeks, why bother having film, literature, art, and music at all? Strip the common sphere of all that and people from different walks of life are left with thin conversational gruel indeed.

I've also grown interested lately in the career of David Susskind, who seems to have done his fair share of raising televisual conversation's game from the fifties to the eighties. His show, quoth Wikipedia, "began its existence in 1958 as Open End," and "the title referred to the fact that the program continued until Susskind or his guests were too tired to continue." As an interviewer, I could hardly be more humbled by that.

There's a new biography about Susskind out; I've considered inviting its author on my show, but given The Sound's talk show-centricity these days, it probably falls more into Jesse's wheelhouse than mine.

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colinmarshall wrote:
I wrote as best I could about these issues recently, in the context of Woody Allen's Manhattan


I'm gonna re-read this today (boredom at work! yay!), but I wanted to let you know this is one of my favorite things you've ever done, and not just because I love Manhattan so much, but also because that pullquote well-describes what I strive very hard to be. Three cheers for cultural literacy!


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Just guessin': program directors don't raise an eyebrow at kicking off the interview with Gymkata


Incidentally, I made the Gymkata discussion significantly shorter on the radio version of the segment.


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